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Old 21-05-2024, 05:34 PM
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Re: Why do MLs suddenly accept Raw?

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My approach is different. I prefer to know up front how far I can go, and the ML's response, while not always direct, always indicate what the real limits are. Then i can decide whether i need to waste time coaxing the ML into it.
I also prefer it like this. so you can get the chemistry. Naybe i get bonus haha
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Old 21-05-2024, 11:47 PM
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Re: Why do MLs suddenly accept Raw

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It definitely feels better for them also without a rubber.

But as all the other guys above mentioned, it really is a red flag if the ML is able to pull out a rubber on command, be it secret place or not. Most of the time it's just with the flow, without discussion of monetary exchange, end up use small head to think, aiya won't so suay one, just risk it.

Personal experience, first time I went for a massage, very sop HJ, think she let me roam her shirt but thru her bra. Third time onwards, she started giving me bjs, without me asking, and not the half fuck kind where she just pump it, really full on eye contact, slow and steady.
Subsequent visits she'd pull down her tights and ask me to finger her, by the time she was very wet already. I just asked her for fun, when you want to let me fuck you, she just laughed it off.
Think it was the fifth/sixth time I visited, I joked about it again. Suddenly, she just told me ok, get off the bed now, hurry up, even cip. After that she wanted me to fuck her raw every time, even tried bringing a condom (got rejected), she told me she has an IUD, don't have to worry.

I asked before, she said it feels a lot a lot better. But she was looking for a bf/sugar daddy (she's a bit older than me, so I'm not in the consideration), that she's just using me temporarily to fulfill her needs, cause I was respectful and that I'm quite good looking la, figure quite good also, think she see also shiok lol (ML say one ah).

But recently cut down on going to see her. $60 (entrance) + $50 (whatever she wants to do that day) is damn worth it la, but the risk of pregnancy, which I'm not willing to handle, or the risk of STDs, the heart cannot take it.
Yes , mixed feeling being raw with ml that worry risk of STD but cannot resistance the raw feeling too.
Remember I want to use rubber also been rejected by her and now she allow me to cim her and I dun care about pregnant… hahaha
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Old 22-05-2024, 07:34 PM
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I got a regular ML that I been raw sex with her for more than 6 months.
The very first time happened was because of the condom broken half way through .
After that we have been enjoy raw sex by pull out shoot on her tummy area.
Only cum in her pussy on her safe period.
She told me that no need to responsible if she got my baby ( so far so good)
Put aside risk factors, the raw sex is very addictive on this 25 syt with pretty face
Can massage ,can suck ,can fuck any position and the best part is can raw sex
Still paid her same rate …
Omg same as me, I got a regular who always raw with me, CIP every single time. Really addictive and always manage to 2s inside her every visit hehe
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Old 22-05-2024, 11:42 PM
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Re: Why do MLs suddenly accept Raw?

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Omg same as me, I got a regular who always raw with me, CIP every single time. Really addictive and always manage to 2s inside her every visit hehe
This is really heavenly shiok , cim without responsible ….
got pregnant …a not
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Old 23-05-2024, 09:38 AM
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Re: Why do MLs suddenly accept Raw?

Seems like almost everyone get raw with ML
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Old 23-05-2024, 04:13 PM
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Seems like almost everyone get raw with ML
As lomg as we pay ,like that ya ?
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Old 24-05-2024, 10:53 AM
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Re: Why do MLs suddenly accept Raw?

Curious - for those who go raw, are you on PrEP, or rush to get on PEP if an unexpected raw opportunity comes along, or simply bochap?
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Old 24-05-2024, 01:45 PM
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Re: Why do MLs suddenly accept Raw?

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Seems like almost everyone get raw with ML
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As lomg as we pay ,like that ya ?
I always thought bros here unlock raw through KC ML.

If pay to raw ML, it should be safer than FL
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Old 24-05-2024, 07:13 PM
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Re: Why do MLs suddenly accept Raw?

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No.

What i meant was you shouldn't need to ask for sex even in your first visit. If everything is natural, sex will be the norm. There shouldn't be any discussion about price too.

And secondly, viet ladies enjoy sex a lot. A lot. They really love having sex.. maybe due to their partying culture.

Most of them say no raw but they easily got high just by rubbing your cock at their clit.

I am not promoting raw sex due to STDs and pregnancies but almost all viet regulars of mine can easily raw after max of 4 visits because by them we would be on very close friendly terms. They want good sex and raw sex feels way better for them. And they know raw sex makes the guy closer to them and can easily get kc too. So its a win win for them too. The thing is if you cip the masseur, she may want to kc you gao gao because she feels really good with you. Then you will have to deal with a lot of wechat messages from her after that lo. lol.
Good point. I dont patronise VN mls much cos I used to be in the prc playground for the decade and am familiar with how it works there. In one of my Viet ML sessions, I had VN ML who dragged me in raw but shoot outside. All sessions r like that. No CIP. Not much KC too but she thinks I m kinda buffed tho.(she said) GFE not much compared to my past prc or vn ones prob cos her mandarin isnt comprehensible as much and her english is not good. I cant speak viet at all. google translate also wrong interpretation lol.I dont splurge on her and no outings with her. SHe doesnt make demands on me as well. She only say when she RTV I sure go bang another one right after. I feel some lines are crossed but other boundaries remain. Maybe like one of the bros who said that is to ensure more exclusivity when visiting her. SHe wont pester or ask for this and that nor does she keep asking me to go find her but when I do .. its drag me in her raw episode ... not FOC ( f on credit. certainly no Free ) She is ok when at times I said I only can give this much etc ( not strict on payment ) I wont mention amount but def not HJ price but less than full package. No hotel etc. I feel shes not out to KC me per se. But she felt safe with me on the banging? I dont know and I wont share ctc as well.
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Old 26-05-2024, 05:37 PM
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My approach is different. I prefer to know up front how far I can go, and the ML's response, while not always direct, always indicate what the real limits are. Then i can decide whether i need to waste time coaxing the ML into it.

Why need to ask?

In fact, some will be pissed off when you asked because they didn't want to be seen as prostitute. They want to be seen as proper ladies.

I never ask the Viet masseurs whether they offer sex or not. I just follow through my usual SOPs. Some of them will insist no sex, no kissing etc but ultimately they can be kissed and many can be up. Just because they told you the boundaries didn't mean you cannot stretch further. Remember, a gal who is high cannot think properly. I don't even need to open mouth and ask for permission to have sex with her. It's more like having sex with a lover at that point.
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Old 26-05-2024, 09:37 PM
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Why need to ask?

In fact, some will be pissed off when you asked because they didn't want to be seen as prostitute. They want to be seen as proper ladies.

I never ask the Viet masseurs whether they offer sex or not. I just follow through my usual SOPs. Some of them will insist no sex, no kissing etc but ultimately they can be kissed and many can be up. Just because they told you the boundaries didn't mean you cannot stretch further. Remember, a gal who is high cannot think properly. I don't even need to open mouth and ask for permission to have sex with her. It's more like having sex with a lover at that point.
Already explained, perhaps you might want to read a little more carefully without preconceived notions colouring your understanding. Thanks for your sharing, but I believe there's no superior method. To each his own.
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Old 27-05-2024, 12:22 AM
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Already explained, perhaps you might want to read a little more carefully without preconceived notions colouring your understanding. Thanks for your sharing, but I believe there's no superior method. To each his own.
Well... you can choose to play within the boundaries defined by her, or you can break out of that reach new heights. The sky's the limit.

FYI. The true players have a staggering rate of unlocking 9 out of 10 masseurs, and most are done in first visit or second visit at most. They started small initially, but gradually grasp the game correctly and eventually break out and reach new heights.

BTW, I am not criticizing you. I am just giving you some insights from the real players.

You can think small, or you can think big. To each his own.
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Well... you can choose to play within the boundaries defined by her, or you can break out of that reach new heights. The sky's the limit.

FYI. The true players have a staggering rate of unlocking 9 out of 10 masseurs, and most are done in first visit or second visit at most. They started small initially, but gradually grasp the game correctly and eventually break out and reach new heights.

BTW, I am not criticizing you. I am just giving you some insights from the real players.

You can think small, or you can think big. To each his own.
Hi bro by true player that unlock raw in first or second visit is it by $$ or need to be handsome?
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Old 27-05-2024, 03:54 PM
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Well... you can choose to play within the boundaries defined by her, or you can break out of that reach new heights. The sky's the limit.

FYI. The true players have a staggering rate of unlocking 9 out of 10 masseurs, and most are done in first visit or second visit at most. They started small initially, but gradually grasp the game correctly and eventually break out and reach new heights.

BTW, I am not criticizing you. I am just giving you some insights from the real players.

You can think small, or you can think big. To each his own.
"True players"
"Real players"
"You can think small, or you can think big."

Seriously man, read your own words. "Not criticizing", according to you, but your sense of self-superiority comes across loud and clear. You can believe in your own greatness, but rein it in a bit yeah?
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Hi bro by true player that unlock raw in first or second visit is it by $$ or need to be handsome?
Never by money. If unlock by money means the masseurs are WLs.

Looks and physique do help. I have two friends who are true players and I learn from them A lot.

A great smile and a few funny jokes to break ice. Nice loving foreplay like how you treat your lover is important. A good understanding of a gal's erogenous zones are important. Then finger or lick to make her high then finally just have sex lo. And no, they don't need to open mouth and ask for permission to have sex.

What is incredible is how they know when the gals are going to cum during fingering or licking. This is the key to having sex with them. This is something I am still learning.
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