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Old 14-03-2009, 02:34 AM
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International Casinos And Girls

This thread is setup for those who travel around the world for casino gaming to share info. and news.

The following are my random thoughts and info.

Singapore:
With the Marina Bay Sands set to open in Dec 2009. This is a milestone for Singapore. Maybe tombstone for many heartlanders. Haha.

Personally I play slot machines exclusively because I find it fun. Gaming should be fun. Always have negative expectation when gaming. When you're not afraid to lose. Most of the time. You'll win!

With almost no competition in its vicinity I believe the slot machines at Marina Bay Sands will have lesser payout percentage. Will have to see it for myself when it opens. However I'll skip Singapore Casinos if the entrance fee is ridiculously high.

Macau:
Always note down the serial nos. when you spot a "looser" machine. Stick to one "loose" machine and keep on whacking. My personal best jackpot record is at about S$550. Haha.

My current strategy is not to play all lines (eg. 20 lines) but at 5 to 10 lines each bet. Will only play maximum lines on a random basis. This is to allow me to get more no. of spins to increase my chances to hit the jackpot. With this method I may not win alot but I do not lose at all for a 4 hour game session. My experience may not work for all because I've been sticking to one machine. Your results may differ. I see some punters always whack max bets for every game. This requires a lot of bankroll. If you're using this strategy please share your feedback.

Standard ST rates are HK$800 for PRC FLs in Lisboa and Venetian Casino. If you've been paying more than that. You've been ripped off. They use the casino hotel rooms for business. Service wise is hit and miss. I opt for Macau saunas instead.

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Authorities only allow electronic gaming only. Shall discuss more if anyone is interested.
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Old 14-03-2009, 10:04 AM
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This thread is setup for those who travel around the world for casino gaming to share info. and news.

The following are my random thoughts and info.

Singapore:
With the Marina Bay Sands set to open in Dec 2009. This is a milestone for Singapore. Maybe tombstone for many heartlanders. Haha.

Personally I play slot machines exclusively because I find it fun. Gaming should be fun. Always have negative expectation when gaming. When you're not afraid to lose. Most of the time. You'll win!

With almost no competition in its vicinity I believe the slot machines at Marina Bay Sands will have lesser payout percentage. Will have to see it for myself when it opens. However I'll skip Singapore Casinos if the entrance fee is ridiculously high.

Macau:
Always note down the serial nos. when you spot a "looser" machine. Stick to one "loose" machine and keep on whacking. My personal best jackpot record is at about S$550. Haha.

My current strategy is not to play all lines (eg. 20 lines) but at 5 to 10 lines each bet. Will only play maximum lines on a random basis. This is to allow me to get more no. of spins to increase my chances to hit the jackpot. With this method I may not win alot but I do not lose at all for a 4 hour game session. My experience may not work for all because I've been sticking to one machine. Your results may differ. I see some punters always whack max bets for every game. This requires a lot of bankroll. If you're using this strategy please share your feedback.

Standard ST rates are HK$800 for PRC FLs in Lisboa and Venetian Casino. If you've been paying more than that. You've been ripped off. They use the casino hotel rooms for business. Service wise is hit and miss. I opt for Macau saunas instead.
kudos to u bro for this thread ...
fortunately for me .... i am no gambler in casino ... except SG 4D (unfortunate) ....

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HCMC .... waste of time .....
better stay at home and sleep ....
and save the money to go PRC ....
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Just want to contribute to this thread started by Bro Tony Stark and share alittle of my experience in casino gambling although i am no expert on it, i have had a few flutters here and there and hopefully whatever little information i can provide may prove useful or all bros here.

My game of choice is usually Blackjack. Its the standard game played in most casinos around the world with several variants to it. I personally have tried two types of blackjack...

Macau:

Blackjack is one of the, if not the, most popular casino card game in Asia (alongside Bacarrat). Its appeal likes in the speed in which the game is played. I personally have played it at the Sands, Wynn, Grand Lisboa and Old Lisboa casinos and have observed a few things about how the simple 21 game is played in Macau. To start off, most Macau casinos offer a 'Any Pair' side bet with the main blackjack bet. It is not uncommon to see the gamblers put for example, 200 HKD on the main game, and maybe 50 HKD on the 'Any Pair' bet. This is how it works - once the bets are placed, and if the dealer deals you a pair (two 8s, two kings whatever), you immediately get a payout (i can't remember the odds - it will be written on the table) on your side bet. If you get two different cards, the dealer will take the side bet and the actual blackjack game begins.

The actual blackjack game itself is played at a very fast pace. I noticed that Asian gamblers in general, tend to enjoy games which rely heavily on luck and chance. It is not uncommon to see spectators around the table, putting their own money on a player who they think is on a roll. They don't actually play, they just put the money on the player's betting square and stand back to collect the 'luck'.


Europe:

Blackjack in Europe is usually of a different variant to the Macau one. And the player's strategy is almost always different. When i was in London on a business conference, i found time to play at one of the local casinos. I found the blackjack played was called 21+3. This is how it goes - You can play a 'Poker Hand' side bet together with the main blackjack game.

Your Cards: King, King Dealer Cards: King, (face down card) = 3 of a kind
Your Cards: 2, 3 Dealer Cards: 4, (face down card) = Straight
Your Cards: 2 diamonds Dealer Cards: 1 diamond, (face down card) = Flush

if you placed a 'Poker Hand Side Bet' and you get either a 3 of a kind, a straight, a flush or a straight flush based on the above system, the payout is 9-1. All this happens before the main blackjack game commences.

even in straight blackjack games, gamblers tend to prefer to double up their bets, split their cards etc as compared to Macau. there is more strategy involved as you can see the gamblers taking their time to analyse their cards and the dealer's cards before hitting or standing. the dealers also deal at a slower pace. blackjack in europe is played at a very private and controlled atmosphere. no spectators are allowed to 'park' their chips on the player's bet.


As for actually winning, blackjack in casinos have to allow the player to win at times. Just as Bro Tony Stark said, the progressive slots have to pay-out under gaming regulations. Blackjack operates on the same principle, but the turn-over is higher, each time a deck is electronically shuffled, it can favour either the player or dealer in general. Gamblers in Asia tend to ride this on pure luck while the Europeans prefer to take a more 'skilled' approach to the game. But, there is probably no right or wrong formula, blackjack probably does require both skill and luck. but even then, its always a gamble!
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Old 14-03-2009, 11:28 PM
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Fan of Baccarat (no 5% commission) and Carribean Stud.

Always lost no matter its Genting or Macau.
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Venetian seems to have best quality of girls.love to loiter around those lou fu gei machines but it looks like they only aim those ah peks. bro tony whats the rate for overnight for WL at most macau casinos?
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i am also fans of Blackjack.

In Genting, there are 2 kinds of Blackjack played. 1 is the normal Blackjack, the others is know as Pontoon.

Pontoon is the British version of the internationally popular banking game Twenty-One, best known form of Blackjack in American casino. Where the game in play is "PONTOON" the approved rules of Blackjack shall apply, except where the rules are inconsistent with rules of "PONTOON" in which case the rules of "PONTOON" shall prevail.


Pontoon is played using traditional decks of cards. Each deck of cards in play shall consist of 48 cards without the joker and the 4 "Tens".

Players achieve "Pontoon" when the initial 2 cards are an Ace with either a King, Queen or Jack.

The objective of the game is to draw cards totalling 21 or close to, but not exceeding 21. "Pontoon" and players point total of "21" will be paid immediately.

The dealer must draw until hard total of 17 or greater is achieved. (As compared to Blackjack where Dealer must stand on soft 17).

Players can surrender half of the initial bet only when the dealer's first card is an Ace or any Picture cards. However, if dealer achieves Pontoon the surrender will be considered void.

Players can double their bet on any 2 initial cards. If the initial cards consist of an "Ace", the face value of the cards will be 1 and not 11. However if the dealer achieves Pontoon they will only collect the player's original bet. Players can also double down on any split except splitting "Ace". After doubling, you will have the option to play or lose the original bet only.

All payments will be made in accordance to the "Pontoon Payout Odds".

Pontoon Payout Odds

Result Payout Odds
Pontoon 3 to 2
5 cards totaling 21 3 to 2
6,7,8 mixed suits 3 to 2
7,7,7 mixed suits 3 to 2


6 cards totaling 21 2 to 1
6,7,8 same suits (except Spades) 2 to 1
7,7,7 same suits (except Spades) 2 to 1


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6,7,8 all Spades 3 to 1
7,7,7 all Spades 3 to 1


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Bets RM10 to RM99 Wins RM1,000
Bets RM100 or above Wins RM5,000
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All other bets (winning or losing) on that round of play in which there is a Super Bonus winner, shall be eligible to receive a Bonus Payment of RM50 per betting circle.

i personally felt that Pontoon have a much better +EV compare to Blackjack.

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kudos to u bro for this thread ...
fortunately for me .... i am no gambler in casino ... except SG 4D (unfortunate) ....

HCMC .... waste of time .....
better stay at home and sleep ....
and save the money to go PRC ....
The odds to kena 4D is even lower than Sic Bo (Big/Small) table game. Haha.

Talk about odds. Tonight's Man Utd Vs. Liverpool 1-4. Damn kelong? Haha the bookies must be very happy tonight!

HCMC is a boring place if you're just looking for bonking avenues. There're many casinos around the city if you're into gaming.

China is the best. Cheong Macau casinos and stay in ZH for economical accomodations and bonking. I never had to take a public bus or taxi as there're many free casino coaches to shuffle you around to Macau Ferry Terminal or the Border Gate. Haha.

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Always lost no matter its Genting or Macau.
Maybe should try slot machines for a change.

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Venetian seems to have best quality of girls.love to loiter around those lou fu gei machines but it looks like they only aim those ah peks. bro tony whats the rate for overnight for WL at most macau casinos?
I feel the Lisboa basement FLs have better quality. The ones at Venetian are a mixed bag. Quality varies.

Not sure about LT rates for casino FLs. Must be quite ridiculous. ST is already at HK$800.

upmountain and Brother...Bob,

Thanks for the insight on Blackjack gaming.
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Venetian seems to have best quality of girls.love to loiter around those lou fu gei machines but it looks like they only aim those ah peks. bro tony whats the rate for overnight for WL at most macau casinos?
=> Yes,i heard from my buddies that these days VENETIAN & WYNN have many FLs loitering there,need your advice -

= Have U tried any of them before ? Good service ?

= What kinda of rates ?

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Venetian babes are better looking many of which got model features. Prices ard 800HKD-1000HKD depending on quality but can chat up with them first play a few round come back negotiate again. Rooms are Venetian rooms but are shared room meaning all they only have a few rooms which are shared by the pimp's whole lot of girls.

Tried a couple , the reason i tried was because i wanted to go into the Venetian's Hotel room to see why it cost SGD 300 a night. Rooms looks good but too ex for me. i stay at new lisbao 150 a nite for members on weekends weekdays is 80.

Anyway i recommend u go to the sauna better and choose. those prc in casinos just want to cash in on big winners.
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Anyone tried playing the texas hodem poker game at Wynn.
My friend and I went over for a game. Realize that it is not very fair, because altough the rules havea maximum n minimum buy in, I saw players just taking chips out of their bag when their table chips are running low. In poker, the more chips you have, the bigger your advantage. Some cb ang mo basically just raise the stake ridiculously to clean the table, dun let ppl got chance to see the river.
My friend lost one 'all in' to a jap that day, my friend got 2 9s 2 As (got it after the first 3 cards), lost to a flush, which he only got on the 4th card, sian half.
I lost mine from a 3 As (pocket As) to a straight,
First time playing texas in a casino setting, must go revenge...

I not really good at slots, any tactics to follow? which machine has gd odds now??
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And for baccarrats n SICBO or roulette, I see ppl following the pattern to bet, maybe if open 7 times small, the next one must be big, or open 5 times banker, it should be player this time. Many ppl follow pattern, which I am a bit sceptical because no matter how many times open the same shit, the next one, the odds will still be the same the net bet. In any case, i am lousy at casino games..haha..
I prefer games like the FuGuiSanGong or Carribean Stud at Venetian, cos can hold and see cards, all on luck, exciting.
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i stay at new lisbao 150 a nite for members on weekends weekdays is 80.
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In poker, the more chips you have, the bigger your advantage. Some cb ang mo basically just raise the stake ridiculously to clean the table, dun let ppl got chance to see the river.
If the maximum buy-in, let say HKD$2000, you are not allow to place more than HKD$2000 on the table when you start, but as you win, your table money can increases to infinite. In between, if you lose some, you still can top-up to HKD$2000 after each individual hand, not half way through the game.

Talk about gambling, only Poker that can have real professionals, celebrities stars. Any other games, casino would have a +EV, those people that talk about they are professional in Blackjack or bacarrat, not all false, they might able to win $50-$100 expense each day, but they may loss a bigger stake in 1 bad day.

Conclusion: In long runs, casino wins!


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You can read all books about how to win but sad to say, nobody can produce a gurantee winning strategy, is all about probabilties, means the odds.

And the true fact, the odds is always against you.

below are the more popular games in casino.

1. Bacarrats
2. Roulette
3. Tai Sai / Dices
4. Blackjack / Pontoon
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You can read all books about how to win but sad to say, nobody can produce a gurantee winning strategy, is all about probabilties, means the odds.

And the true fact, the odds is always against you.

below are the more popular games in casino.

1. Bacarrats
2. Roulette
3. Tai Sai / Dices
4. Blackjack / Pontoon
5. Caribbean Stud poker
Hi bro,
Agree, the casino is out to stack the deck against you.
I always go in to a casino to lose money slowly and enjoy the view and myself.

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