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Originally Posted by Neverlookback
Mate .nope....
To be fair mebbe one shud rephrase as "not difficult" rather than "easy"; and to still be fair, i lived in HK 12 years...apartment just off hollywood spending about 12-15 days pm in d city....so easier than for an in & out visitor.
I also can speak not great but passable Guandonghua, also helps.
I know the P4P scene well & partook a lot, but i can assure you that any night i went to a music bar/pub/club it would be rare i left emptyhanded...either a tourist or a local...(obviously the more adventurous locals, same situ as in SG or etc. Office professionals, marketing n advertising types, etc.) Mainly ONS but had a few i kept running for repeaters over months depender their own status.
So no mate not a casanova n not a keyboarder...just a guy who can hold a convo with a woman without prompt cards and dresses like someone she doesnt mind being seen with....very important in HK tho apparently not in SG. LOL
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Your post got blasted by someone, but I personally think there are a number of great learning points in what you’ve said:
1. Speaking the local language: I’ve learnt Cantonese since young (the same time when I learnt English and Mandarin). Can’t say I’ve reached the same level as a native HK, but I’ve managed to blend in well enough that others have assumed I’m a local on some occasions. My point here is that the kind of trust and dynamics that you’re dealing with would be very different (hint: advantageous) if you would have some grasp of the language. I believe this logic should apply in any country, but if you want to play long-term or widen your playing field in any country with their distinct communication language, you have to put in the effort to up your potential rewards (again note the word potential, nothing is guaranteed here).
2. Dresses like someone that a lady doesn’t mind being seen with: Look, you’ve nuanced it pretty well here in my opinion, as much as you’ve nuanced your first reply sentence in this quoted post. Again, I’m citing my personal experience where unlike my language proficiency which allows me to blend in pretty well, I’m a guy whom no one has complemented as being handsome. I’m more commonly associated with the labels “nerdy” and “stoneface”. To compensate for my lack of “natural handsomeness”, I dress decently and groom myself. I don’t carry any branded goods or even a work-wear watch (just my Garmin) - just the bare basics where you appear prim and neat. Heck, I don’t even ever gel my hair but just ensure that it’s not messy. Couple these with holding a conversation with a lady, and you’re well onto a good start with half (if not more) the battle won (in my humble experience).
Adding my own thoughts:
If you like the HK playing field as much as I (as a Singaporean guy) do, then you may or may not be surprised to know that being Singaporean also has its subliminal benefits (which is amplified if you have the above 2 mentioned points). Hong Kong guys may be too indifferent or not-as-gentleman to their own ladies. Moreover, the locals are more stressed than Singaporeans (in my opinion for some/most parts of HK). Just providing a listening ear and being in someone’s company like a gentleman sounds simple, but it is this simplicity that has allowed me to get so much more that others don’t. Most stressed people only want to pour their heart out, and get someone to listen attentively (heck, you don’t even need to think of a solution for them, just do active listening).
If we can fill the gap that the locals have given us, then the field is yours to play.