[nono1973]

Originally Posted by CelestialBeing

Completely agree bro, i know i screwed up when i took up his offer, i think i was abit nervous and too keen to get things done ASAP.

Honestly,you are making small mistakes,those were the ones that would help you grow up in your cheonging in Batam. Being nervous and being a little over enthusiastic is a common sign for most newbies (if not all). That is why i always say i stand on a newbie ground when i wrote my Beginner's Walk-Through Guide for 1st Time Batam Visitor a year plus ago and today,i will never be able to write using that same mentality again becos i can no longer stand 100% in a newbie's perspective. The max i can do is only imagine and illustrate myself as a newbie. And if i were to write the newbie guide again,believe me...it would never be better as i am no longer in the psychological state of mind of a newbie (especially on the part of their recklessness,shyness,lack of confident when in an unfamiliar place/s,too high expectation or dont know what to expect,getting excited,dont know who to trust,communication issues etc etc).

Originally Posted by CelestialBeing

Yea this is pretty much what happened, the taxi driver will try to chop u from that point onwards when u take up his offer. Luckily i did not agree with all his suggestion, including bringing me to eat seafood, which im quite certain he will be suggesting golden prawn lol, the famous tourist trap restaurant.

Good! I always try my best to put myself in someone's shoe when replying to an FR. One day you will also need to venture into those tourist trap restaurants,like Golden Prawn,Wey Wey,Harbour Bay Sea food,Windsor Food Court's Sea food etc and learn not to get chopped.

Originally Posted by CelestialBeing

Will definitely book formosa on my next trip lol.. i prefer to get started early, so any early check in before 12am will definitely in be in my favor.

This part i didnt need to say more. Until you are more stable,then feel free to change to another hotel,hehehe...

Originally Posted by CelestialBeing

I agree, newbies need to be firm in instructing ur supir where to bring u to, don't let him lead u on. Where u want to go for massage, where u want to go eat, which joints u want to visit, etc. Have to say i didnt do that well with regards to the eating part and massage part, but luckily i stand firm on not visiting some joints he suggested, well in this case, Morena joints.

Have an itinerary,know where you wish to go,take a taxi to go there should not be too difficult a task for any newbie. Thats why my itinerary are always in this thread for my own review as well as for the public reference. I know where i wish to stay,i know where i wish to go from where i stay and then how to reach where i wish to go can then be discussed and commented further. At time,there will also be better suggestions in this thread for me too,hehehe...

Trust me,even if someone is wheel-chair bound,as long as he can reach Formosa Hotel,from Food,booking girls to KTV ,up to massage with special..it is already under a single roof as long as he brings enough money. But whether there will be fun or not will be another story (luck is an important factor),hehehe...

Originally Posted by CelestialBeing

Thats reassuring to hear, with regards to how much i paid at Sawadee massage, i can't really recall, but its definitely below 200k.

Thank you for sharing.

Originally Posted by CelestialBeing

Luckily i personally requested the driver to bring me to goldbird after visiting a few joints and can't decide to book any ceweks

So,its not all bad huh?

I am glad you at least read the Batam Newbie Guide and the warning on my signature regarding the Banned Joint.

Thank you for being wise.

Originally Posted by CelestialBeing

I'm not sure about the name, but the way they operate is that, they will bring in a variety of dishes to put on your table, den they will charge u according to what u eat. I'm not that comfortable with that arrangement so i just ate some rice, a plate of eggs and a plate of fried chicken, thankfully my girl was also reluctant to just dig in, she just ate whatever i picked. I guess even she knows that place is a tourist trap.For that i was charged 100k.

Without a name,I cant really comment much. And like i say earlier,as long the meals is not those crazy 500k to 700k for 2 pax kind of bill,you are absolutely fine.

Originally Posted by CelestialBeing

Lucky lucky hahaha hope can try some "commando style" cewek in the future haha, for all my 4 shots i have to be the one initiating, but i see a few lucky bros whose girl wake them up in the middle of the night for sex hahaha. I guess that when it comes to how most cewek will be reluctant in providing BJ.
I can live with it too.

You will have a chance,bro. But unlikely to be SYT. Try the MILF or the semi SYT. Cheaper with better service. Alternative,tell papi or mami you want those girls that can fuck all night kind,hehehe...they will know what you mean. But try to be friendly and if her service is good,dont forget to tip. If not good,try again in next trip/next night.

I have met up with some of those you called "lucky bros",hehehe...it is also not every trip that they will be so lucky. For every "lucky" they have,they will also have an almost equal time of having an "unlucky" experience. Just that they never say it out here,hehehe...most people share mainly the good and not their fail.

Originally Posted by CelestialBeing

Bro nono, the jia lat thing that happened is that i was there for a 3D2N stay, the incident happened on the 2nd day of my stay, i know they are a new hotel, but this kind of mistake is simply too jia lat..

Now,that would be bad. But to be safe,always have a "do not disturb" sign out at the door knob if you do not want any room service people to make up your room. I need to be honest with you,i also have the same experience in Formosa Hotel before. They entered my room to make up my room w/o me in the room and i was staying for 3D2N too. Its probably a norm to them. No matter how safe a hotel is,still i say..its an individual responsibility to keep their valuable safe (an advise i keep hearing since i start reading this thread on Day 1).

Originally Posted by CelestialBeing

I Recce abit from my walk from Da vienne hotel to NHM and back. I have to say the surrounding around Formosa is the best, lots of massage places, and eating places. I also bought some tibits and food to enjoy while eating tv from a mama shop nearby.

Yes,yes,yes...walk around,do not always rely on taxi driver/ojek. Move around the area where you stay,explore more.What you learn and understand,no one can take from you. For me,Formosa is my HQ,i move around from thereon.If i am lost,i go to any hotel,take an ojek or taxi back to hotel (priority is ojek 1st when distance is short).

After having more or less knowing the area better,move to another place. And eventually one day,you may choose not to walk anymore becos you already know where are the mostly frequently visited places and the more important things in your mind will be moving around from point to point to get the best timing to do the things you aim to do in Batam.

Originally Posted by CelestialBeing

Thanks for ur reply bro nono, u basically wrote yet another mini guide for newbies in ur reply to me.

Thanks to your sharing,i basically wrote another mini guide in order to reply you so that newbies after you can avoid making the mistakes you made if they read them. Its one of the reason why i am writing all my guides on my signature.

1. https://www.sbfsg.org/showpo...ostcount=32032

2. https://www.sbfsg.org/showpo...ostcount=32033

In other word,those who read (the 2 links above) and myself thank you for making those mistakes in your Batam trip.

(not everyone dares to share and/or admit their mistake/s,you know)

Cheers!