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Originally Posted by Intltuk

Yes, ticket is a ref for him and yes, he is relying on his memories...which unfortunately, is 20+ yrs ago. The hotel we went to was his 2nd trip and he thought there were many entertainments.....which turn out not so....but overall, still managed to hve fun.

Hehehehe...but the ferry ticket from your sifu look so new. At 1st sight i thought you guys has already bought the ferry tickets and landing yourself at Batam center which turns out later to be a used ticket. Got to know later there's a SG50 promo at sindo ferry at quite a fairly good price.

Mind if i ask,when you guys bought your ferry tickets,are both of your tickets purchased at the same price? Or your sifu got a better price and you pay a little higher price?

Originally Posted by Intltuk

Anyway, it's a good learning experience for me too. This is sifu's final trip as he may not be able to make it the next round as he is getting weaker and walking is getting more difficult for him.

Batam is just about 45mins to 1 hr away from Sillypore,hehehe...anyone including my own parents would have no problem going there and coming back regardless of age. All one need is a willing heart and some behavioral control. And that kind of control is needed for all ages when travelling to any countries in the world.

Sincerely hope your sifu can still go to Batam again...and again and again and again....

Originally Posted by Intltuk

Yes, he did have fun and drank more than usual and still steady....but he was not getting the ultimate fun...girls to hug and fuss over him.

You reminded me of the lup sup bar in Sillypore,hehehe...where there are lots of hugging and roaming during drinking,wondering if there are such in Batam tho. Hmm...i think i read in the past post in this thread there are. Havent venture to any bars in Batam yet....

Originally Posted by Intltuk

If compared to S'pore, it is cheap.....and from what the prices I've see in Permata Indah, Meximo and T2 Club.....the jugs are slightly cheaper...and with 2 free jugs, it is cheaper by 1/2.....only question in my mind is why 1st night only 1 jug free and 2nd night 2 jug free?

Interesting to know Permata Indah and Meximo Pub sells their beer at a slightly higher price. Good info there which can be use as comparison.

The 1st night in Alishan KTV,our bill were small.And there was no girls for seating in our room at all with mami telling us no more girls left. Probably the manager look us no up since we only ordered beer/coke...lol. Maybe becos we reached at about 1030pm plus? Possible too.

2nd night the bill is 3 times more and we order beer just for "decorative purpose" as my friends planned to try everything as much as possible (eg,bring in their own liquor to see how much they charge,booking etc) and my plan? To gather as much information as possible,eg Liquor pricing,tipping,cover charge etc etc. Not forgetting my friends also "bribe" the waiter aka tip him quite a bit. The only person we didnt tip is the Mummy on the 2nd night,hehehe...cos she didnt turn up after helping one of my friend w/o girls to get a sitting girl.

In all KTVs around the world,at most time Mummies and waiters are the key people to getting things done according to our wishes,hehehe...i bet the next time my friends go to Alishan again or any Batam KTVs,they will be more "intelligent" ?

Originally Posted by Intltuk

Btw, beer at Windsor court cost bet Rp28k to Rp 38k.....half the price of S'pore coffeeshops.......and 70 beer promoters vs average of 5 promoters in S'pore coffeeshops.

WHAT! 70 BEER PROMOTERS??!! Thats as many girls as a fair sized KTVs in Sillypore....and i dont suppose any of the 70 promoters are male,right? Hehehe....

Originally Posted by Intltuk

I don't know about Batam but if we book a girl the whole night, no tip is given since we've paid the booking(fyi, booking whole night to sit in S'pore nightclub is approx $240)....some tips may be given...if the girl is outstanding in service and we wish to rtf. If I need to pay total of Rp 530k for sitting, I might as well book a girl overnight for Rp800k and she will accompany to KTV also. Make sense?

Yea,i know about how the Sillypore KTV works on sitting girls that dont butterfly to other room/s except just to keep their clients who pay for the hourly-booking accompany in the KTV room.The charges are base on per hour of company by the girls and can easily reach a few hundred Sin dollar in just one night (higher-end KTV in sillypore),hehehe...

Most of us already have an overnight booking girl booked in Batam before we hit the KTV,except one.And we manage to get one for him on the 2nd KTV night. But then,most KTV girls in Batam definitely look better than booking joint girls when they were being showcased in our room as there were no biggest ,fattest, ugliest in KTV to compare with booking joint.But comparing overnight bookable SYTs in KTV and the SYTs in overnight booking joint,it will be almost the same (other than most in KTV speaks some level of English).

There are overnight booking girls in KTVs too,except if one wish to get a overnight booking from KTV,they usually get them rather late and late here means once after the sun set whereby one is able get overnight booking girls from overnight booking joints as early as early an early afternoon. Number of bonks also depend on chemistry for KTV girls too (which i hear is usually around 2,sometimes 3 depending on tipping,stamina and chemistry).

If one plans to take overnight booking girls from KTV,the seating charge of 280k are usually waived. Thats why the overnight booking fee in Batam KTVs usually cost around 1.3 million rupiah to 1.6 million rupiah today. Seating tips of 250k will then varies from person to person as many other factors may come to play,eg girl's playability,level of enjoyment etc. Not forgetting there's also overnight booking tips the next morning when the overnight KTV girls leave.

So if one wish to book a KTV girl for overnight,you will need to add up all the upcoming "hidden" cost together which will be another field worth studying on,hehehe...

Thats as much info i gathered on Batam KTV billing so far.

Originally Posted by Intltuk

I believe the bros who tag along should appreciate ur effort and time in `guiding' them as it's more of a learning trip for them; if they enjoyed the trip, great, if no, at least the trip at least gives them the experience of what batam is all about and they should be grateful for it as u're not being paid to bring them around.

So far most if not all i believe do appreciate my effort. But most fail to understand that it is a learning trip and i am there only to guide them on the basics and on-site learning while my guides in this forum are theoretical. Before they go on-site,they will need to read to have some basic understanding 1st. I cant possibility be reading my guides to them during a field trip,right?

Once they are equipped with all the basics,they should not have a problem to reach and navigate batam safely on their own in future. Thats one of my primary objective.

Originally Posted by Intltuk

Sacrifice as in need to compromise when in group rather than a free and easy to do what u want when travelling alone...but personally, I like travelling with like minded bros who are easy going....it's more fun.

Exactly my sentiment here. Even as a learning trip,i still hope to bring people with similar frequency and not too far away age gap along,so they dont feel out of place during a discussion and sharing time. Imagine i bring along an early 20s bro and a nearly 60 bro in a trip,i dont even need to think twice to know they are unlikely to share similar frequency.

There's one reason why no KTVs/PUBs for me in any learning group trips,hehehe...drinking too much can create a drama which i see in many entertainment places in Sillypore. That part,i always stay out of it when in group and even stated in my Terms and Conditions for those who wish to join me.

3 more days to July,hehehe....